June 15, 2023

In 28 very fast minutes, this interview with Dr. Schooler covers curiosity and creativity, the transformative power of asking questions, pivotal differences between general interest curiosity and deprivation curiosity, turning mind wandering into mind wondering, the loveliness of open mindfulness and implementation intentions ... and the possibility of an app for all of that!

February 05, 2023

The KPI Institute invites Dr. Schooler for a discussion on the definition of an aging brain, how it relates to memory loss and impacts on our personal life, and different kinds of memory. Dr. Schooler also bridges literature and research as the episode dives into The Book on the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are, from Alan Watts.

October 03, 2022

Listen to an in-depth filmed conversation between Howard Burton and Dr. Schooler! This wide-ranging conversation examines how mind-wandering can serve as a window into the psychological world of meta-awareness. Further topics include the nature of consciousness, mindfulness, creativity, free will, verbal overshadowing and more.

March 23, 2022

Is it possible to suddenly remember a traumatic experience? We discuss this highly controversial topic with Dr. Jonathan Schooler, a distinguished professor in the Psychological and Brain Sciences department at University of California Santa Barbara. As one of the only researchers brave enough to tackle this topic, Dr. Schooler describes his work on memories of abuse and other early traumas that were discovered later in life. He shares insights from the research as well as some speculations on how we can tell if a discovered memory is real or false.

From Mind Wandering to Mind Wondering
December 16, 2021

Sucheta Kamath, an award-winning speech-language pathologist, a TEDx speaker, and the founder and CEO of ExQ, interviews Dr. Jonathan Schooler. 

In this episode:

Jonathan Schooler discusses his work in human cognition; particularly mind-wandering, its disruptive nature, its hidden benefits, and its link to meta-awareness. As he explains, since the mind is only intermittently aware of engaging in mind wandering, enhancing meta-awareness can be an important process to heighten monitoring and improve executive function.

August 16, 2021

Matt Asher: 

"I speak with UCSB professor and META lab director Jonathan Schooler about some of my favorite topics, including panpsychism, multiple minds, the filter that is consciousness, and how we understand the world."

July 09, 2021

IONS scientist Dr. Arnaud Delorme interviews Dr. Jonathan Schooler regarding the exploration of phenomena that intersect between the empirical and the philosophical such as the nature of human consciousness.

May 27, 2021

Kieth Miller, host of the podcast "Soul of Life," interviews Dr. Jonathan Schooler: 

In this episode...

“Everything is magic until we understand it.”

-Arthur C. Clark

How do you know that you’re conscious? I mean, don’t you just kind of know?

“The single thing that we know best from our own first person perspective and understand least from the perspective of objective science.”

July 10, 2019

In this episode of Bulletproof Radio, we get into the pros and cons of mind-wandering—why it’s good for you, when it’s too much, and how to use it to your advantage.





April 02, 2019

Daydreaming about an interesting idea can yield creative insights, a process Jonathan Schooler calls mind-wondering, rather than mind-wandering.


December 12, 2018

Musings in this mind meld

How Dr. Schooler found himself researching consciousness and the mind

The phenomenon of false memory

The hard problem of consciousness 

What consciousness is, isn’t and might be

Dr. Schooler’s “resonance” hypothesis and the importance of “frequency”

Is consciousness intrinsic to the universe or just anchored to matter?

Possible techniques to improve your ability to recall information more effectively

January 29, 2018

It's a workday, just after lunch. You have a deadline and there's plenty of time left in the day to get the task done. If only you could stop thinking about other things. One thought can lead to your mind just...wandering away. This can't be good, right? You've probably been scolded as a kid for daydreaming in class. But in recent years, neuroscientists and psychologists have found that there are some very redeeming qualities to this mental state - in fact, it could be an essential cognitive skill. Here's an excerpt from an interview conducted with one of those researchers.

November 05, 2017

Dr. Schooler talks about mind-wandering, mindfulness, and creativity on Dr. Connie Corley's radio show.

January 19, 2017

Being called a daydreamer, especially as an adult, often has negative connotations. But researchers at the University of California, Santa Barbara have been studying the value of what they call ‘mind wandering’. Jonathan Schooler, a professor of psychological and brain sciences has been looking specifically at creative scientists and creative writers to see when they have creative ideas.

October 01, 2014

In this podcast, Dr. Schooler describes mind-wandering as a phenomenon when a person’s attention is less directed towards external environment and it shifts more towards an internal train of thought. But is mind-wandering an attribute of attention or is this an attribute of consciousness? Dr. Schooler shares his views on this and other topics.


May 03, 2011

In this short, Jonathan Schooler tells us about a discovery that launched his career and led to a puzzle that has haunted him ever since.

In the late 1980s, when Jonathan Schooler was a graduate student in psychology, he did a little study that became a big deal. Schooler asked a group of people to watch a video of a man robbing a bank. After watching the video, he had half of them jot down a description of the robber. And, wait for it ... turns out that the people who took notes were significantly LESS likely to recognize the robber later.